I don’t really care about whether tophia is black or not because either way fuck her. but can we stop saying she has black features
the only somewhat black feature she has is curly hair. she is quite literally a copy and paste of mamachu and mamachu isn’t black,(and i’m not sure if mamachu has curly hair or not but i think ive seen a picture of her with curly hair) so the “obviously she is black” is not working for me. obviously tf not!
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Her ignorance can just be ignorance . Doesn’t mean she can’t be mixed and ignorant
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It’s true, Mexicans are mixed indigenous, indigenous have straight hair unless you’re mixed ☠️
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not every mexican is mixed , some are just white or even middle eastern. is mamachu even mexican? tophia always just says hispanic
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I’ve heard people say she’s Spaniard like from Spain
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How can someone be middle eastern when it’s across the ocean. If they’re mixed with spainaird it would make sense
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so there’s this thing called immigration, it’s when people from other countries immigrate to other countries. Latin America is incredibly diverse. Peso pluma is half Lebanese , salma hayek is half lebanese and half spanish
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The person you’re responding to was in another thread trying to say they’ve never seen a nonblack person with tophias head shape.
They fr just go off their own assumptions and idk where they get their facts from but they’re ignorant.
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I've seen them in probably 4 different comment sections here and on Marie's subreddit about the same point with her hair and skin tone 😭 and MINUTES after I posted this comment last night they instantly responded back knowing I was mentioning them, I should have listened to that other person that called them insane
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Idk why they would wanna immigrate there when the poverty line is as worse as their home countries ☠️ most that are mixed come from Spanish background from colonization
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bro you're not even making a point
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But nonetheless ik like so many people who have curly hair but ARENT mixed though... 💀 so are you saying white people can't have curly hair as well? because it damn sure sounds like it, people can be born with curly hair, and not everyone HAS to have curly hair AND be mixed black ...
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This the only pic you have? Hair looks dyed and straightened.
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Untrue. I have a friend who’s Mexican and is t mixed with black, guess what? She has curly hair like Tophia. I have ppl in my family who also have curly hair, some wavy, and others straight. Your idea is based on Eugenics. It’s like saying only white ppl can have blue eyes, or only Asians have straight hair which is not true.
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I’m half white & half hispanic and I have very curly hair lol.
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Oh curly hair??? Girl you’re black lol 🤣🤣🤣
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🤣🤣🤣 sooo true lol
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i am white x white and have curly hair, and neither of my parents have the same hair as me!!!! that argument is insane to me lol
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Well you must be adopted and your real parents are black! you black too 🤣😂🤣😂🤣
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Yeah I’m not sure why it even matters if papachu is her father or not. If he wants to claim her so be it 🤷🏽♀️ black or not all of her opinions on race are uneducated statements she’s making based on chronically online opinions she’s listened to
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And also her hair texture really isn’t a valid argument because the only reason her hair is so big is because she dry brushes it 😂 her curls would probably be much looser if she actually moisturized and washed her hair properly
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Thank you!! lol
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I'm mexican my mom dad and sister have super straight hair and I got curly hair when I was a baby my hair was short it was curly now I'm older my hair is long and wavy I usually straighten though
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THIS
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I don’t think it’s considered a black feature, as a black person myself anyone can have curly hair wether they are black or not, I’m pretty sure Mamachu has curly hair but she just brushes it down but I can see the curls so that’s where Tophiachu got it from I’m guessing. Overall Tophia is most definitely not black and I think she’s either full Hispanic or half white and half Hispanic
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It’s crazy because even white people can have curly hair. I had a friend who had locks and locks of curls ! It’s not just a black person hair 😭
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Her hair isn’t even what makes me think she’s black. Because a lot of people have thick curly hair .. I think she’s black because I think she’s black. It doesn’t have to be from Donald either her bio dad could have well been mixed with black and something else - either way WHY is that such a hard topic when she does more controversial questionable scammy things all the time . Yet you guys are getting your rocks off over the thought of her being non black and cosplaying as a mixed woman for her benefit. Which btw she has Zero benefits to doing that it’s not like she would gain pretty privilege the only thing she would benefit is saying abhorrently racist things. Which non black people do all that time so why would she need a buffer for that lol
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okay for starters, you can’t give any reason on why you think she’s black and we’ve given you multiple reasons on why we know she isn’t. and we care because me being a black woman, i dont want her speaking for us. she says racist things then tries to reverse it and claim others are being racist to her. she spreads false info about the black community and uses words like racism very loosely and pushes a narrative. we can call her out on her lies while still holding her accountable for her actions . our race isn’t a costume she can put on whenever she’s called out. she uses her “being black” as a crutch to say whatever racist thing she wants without being called out because “black people cant be racist”
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THIS! saying racist things/slurs and your excuse being “oh well i’m this race so i can say that” + pulling a race card every time you’re criticized or things don’t go your way is disgusting on its own..but then imagine not even being the race that you’re using as a defense 🤢
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the “black propel can’t be racist” part!!!! she has said some incredibly insensitive and racist things towards black propel in the past and once she got called out she was suddenly claiming to be black after years of saying donald was her step father.
my BiL is black and he cannot stand her. the way she uses black pain to push a narrative that is so harmful. it’s disgusting.
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Whether she’s black or not , whether Donald is her bio dad or not that is all she knows so strangers on a Reddit thread is not gonna make her go back on that. We aren’t gonna have an Epiphany with her race because she’s incapable of doing so for numerous reasons . Because her last name is Slydell(Donald’s name ) she is entitled to anything related to him. He is her legal father if not biological and the only father figure she’s had for 30 years. Reddit isn’t gonna change that is what I’m saying . Because of that she probably feels like she has the right to consider herself black because of Donald even if she’s not. She has also probably faced alot of the similar experiences black mixed people face because Donald was around her growing up.. again strangers on Reddit can’t negate that or erase that from being the case
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because you were raised around a black person does not give you the right to identify as black. i could be raised by a bunch of white people and that wouldn’t change anything because i’m very clearly a black woman. but im not having this argument with you because i see you’re firm on your opinion and so am i on mine and i’m not sure if you’re even a black person to tell anyone why they shouldn’t care. have a good night
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I’m very black 100% lol ok
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On the flip side of this, her only proximity to blackness is through Donald (who she seemingly doesn’t have the greatest relationship with). She has no ties with her black relatives, other than through Donald (who, at this point, I’m fairly certain is only her stepfather).
Most of the family she’s close with are on Marie’s side, and I have yet to hear her claiming or talking at length about her Spaniard heritage. It’s clear to me (as a black woman) that she weaponises her ‘blackness’ for her own gain and to avoid accountability.
Let me also ask, knowing how Tophia is, has she ever discussed actual instances where she’s experienced anti-black racism? And not just people coming at her online.
I understand what you’re saying in terms of identity, but Tophia has, and continues to be, disingenuous about this aspect of herself. Especially if it’s to avoid taking accountability for something. That is why people are continuing to call her out.
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exactly what i’m saying
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you literally cannot call yourself black because you were raised by a black man. that’s like those cookie monster pant wearing white girls with box braids saying “i’m basically black because i was raised in the hood” and that argument is so so so stupid. no. just. no.
-coming from a white girl literally raised in the fucking good and my best friend is black but i don’t consider myself black just because i grew up with black people.
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this!!
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That girl is mixed. End of story I’m not arguing with no white people over black business
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THISSSS these people are in denial it’s as clear as day she has to be mixed with some black this is literally her mom 🤦🏽♂️
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tophia looks like her mom.
both tophia and her mom have thick hair, like the picture you posted.
when tophia first take care of her hair, it looks just like marie’s.
she did not have to be mixed with black to look the way she does. if anything she looks mixed with hispanic the most because she looks just like her mother, with similarities to ronald, not donald. she literally does not look like donald, and that’s not saying i’m denying she’s mixed but i’m so sure she’s not donald’s child because she has zero of donald’s features, and many of ronald’s features.
she can be mixed with white and hispanic and still come out with her skin tone and curly hair.
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Her mom looks like a white passing Spaniard woman . Marie looks nothing like a AA mixed woman . Tophia & Donald jr look racially ambiguous. If you put their entire family together Marie would stand out because she is the only one with straight hair white skin and Spaniard features but she’s not mixed oh okay
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No fr, and earlier I saw this one guy say that "Mexicans can't have curly hair like her without being mixed with black," which is... crazy 😭 plus (if Ronald is her real father), they can still have curly haired genes from either side of their family, especially since curly hair is a dominant gene. But yeah, I honesty don't see any black features on her at all