My Final Thoughts.
I've made a few posts here, and they've been taken down, so hopefully this one doesn't. I'm going to be respectful and concise.
I've had more than my fair shares of death, all in my immediate family. I've had someone die in my arms. I've seen people get shot. I was once nearly in the crossfire of a shooting, and I was standing on my front porch.
I'm saying that to say that I know what losing someone is like. Grief isn't something we get over, it's something we learn to live with, something we manage. I know better than most people.
With that being said, I do feel for them and the situation. It shouldn't have happened the way it did, but I'm a firm believer in everything happens for a reason. This did happen for a reason. If you put bad energy out into the universe, you're going to get it back. Tophia constantly wished death on people, threatened people, invited them to pull up and see what happens, and... look what happened. People saying that this isn't karma -- it is.
And myself and many others are allowed to feel that way.
While we acknowledge that it was a horrible and downright traumatic event, we're letting you all know that this could have all been avoided if Tophia had gotten off her ass and gotten that one bedroom apartment, stopped relying on Tiktok, and stopped doxxing herself.
I know it had nothing to do with the Internet, but in the video she posted, her words were mentioning the Internet as if it's our fault. She doesn't learn. She WON'T learn. She let her elderly chronically ill mother live in a car, wouldn't get her any adult diapers, made her walk around a convention then complained about her experience being ruined because they had to be at the bathrooms all day. She abused Hershey and Peaches. Marie isn't the best person and is the reason Tophia is the way she is, but she doesn't deserve the shit her daughter is putting her through.
Tophia lives in delusion. Hopefully this will bring her back. It won't. Deep down, we know it won't, but we're holding out hope for her.
If you're going to downvote me into the ground, just keep scrolling. Please leave constructive arguments and not just, "have some compassion" or "you're sick for this."
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I agree. I'm trying not to be pessimistic about it. It's just difficult with her track record.
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Totally understand
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But does her track record really worth dragging up like a day after her brother was shot in the head in front of her?
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Yes
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Grow up learn empathy hopefully
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You can't blame me or anyone else for not believing she'll change given how she's been for the past... how many years? Her mom was like three coughs away from seeing the light and Tophia gave zero fucks.
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Nope I take it all back! Did you see that update? Not a word on her mother just money money money
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I’m not in here to just hate I’m here cause I wanna know why people do the things they do !
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I wouldn’t necessarily say she gives zero fucks I’d say she’s just a low functioning adult that wasn’t raised properly by mamachu or shown a proper example, also what the fuck can she do for mamachu lol? Leave her in the car for tophias 8 hour shift? lol idk man these are real ass people with limited skill set in a harsh world …APS should have stepped in a looooong time ago, and who knows maybe they DID try to get Mamachu care and failed , I have my reasons for watching tophia content mostly as a case study I suppose..I just think this is tasteless a day after the murder ya know
Rip Donald
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hey, so, it’s not difficult to have compassion for someone who just saw their family members gunned down. it’s actually the opposite—you are probably a sociopath. get help.
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This might have been the most reddit comment ever lmao.
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I'm not a sociopath and I don't need help! Did you read the post?
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why would u be in a reddit dedicated to the shit she pulls and then get all offended when we call her out rightfully so lmfao
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I honestly don’t believe she’ll realize her mistakes and feel regret or guilt tbh, she never did before but who knows
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YOUR PFP IS HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN AAAAA
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IT IS AAAAAAAAAAA
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never thought I would meet another Hayden fan on a Tophiachu reddit 🤭
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life is crazy like that
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Additionally, you can't expect everyone to have empathy for her. Empathy and sympathy are not the same thing!
I'm not blaming Tophia. I know firsthand how mentally taxing it is to blame yourself for someone's death. I didn't wish this on her. I don't want her to turn to self harm or suicide. I want her to be responsible. That's what I want.
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I think the whole “everything happens for a reason, you get back what you put out into the universe” trope is woefully flawed and lacks nuance. I only ever really hear it from people with incredibly limited life experience, or a very narrow viewpoint on how the world works.
Most people who get r*ped or m*rdered didn’t experience that because of what they “put out into the universe,” for instance, and to meet a tragedy like that (or this one!) with, “everything happens for a reason!” is borderline insane.
Sometimes, shitty things happen to shitty people.
Sometimes good things happen to shitty people.
Sometimes shitty things happen to good people.
Etc, etc.In this situation, a shitty thing happened to a shitty person. There’s no mysticism involved.
At the end of the day, Tophia is a bad person, yes. But she’s also clearly special needs and not all there.
If anyone thinks she’s of even the low end of average intelligence or mental competence, they need to get their own heads examined. She clearly needs a caregiver. And I say that as someone who did that for a living at one point.
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This is my thought process, and HEAVY on that last part. Has she done bad, wrong things? Yes. But I don't personally think she's often held to an impossible standard on this sub--she's a disabled individual who has been in a horrible living situation her whole life. Without proper caregiving, this kind of thing is SO COMMON in folks with intellectual disabilities and it can change when the individual gets proper care.
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Oh, she is 100% held to an impossible standard by the vast majority of folks who find her being a lolcow entertaining. She is clearly mentally handicapped and has been raised in and living in TERRIBLE environments without the proper care or resources she clearly needs. It’s likely been that way her entire life. It’s no wonder she is the way she is.
Everyone finding entertainment in any of this is finding entertainment in a disabled person’s demise and I honestly just want folks to say that with their whole chests at this point.
She’s awful. I’m not denying that. But let’s call this what it is.
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Yeah, shitty things happen. But in this case, it happened for a reason. Listen to the shit she says, and you think this wasn't meant to be a wake up call? Also, I disagree with that last thing. She's just fucking stupid. It's because she wasn't educated properly. She doesn't need a caregiver. She's a capable grown ass woman.
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> “Listen to the shit she says, and you think this wasn’t meant to be a wake up call?
No. I don’t. Because I don’t engage in what’s professionally called “magical thinking” in the world of psychology. You clearly do.
> “She’s just fucking stupid.”
That is what most uneducated people think of individuals with intellectual disabilities. So yeah, no surprise there.
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She needed to learn her lesson eventually. This is just how it happened. I wouldn't consider myself uneducated, I've dealt with people with intellectual disabilities many times. She might have something wrong with her, yeah, but she's still ignorant.
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So you are saying that Tophia doesn’t understand the concept of right or wrong then, correct? Bc someone who is mentally incompetent, doesn’t? Tophia knows exactly what right from wrong is. She is a 30 year old grown woman. Yes, she was dealt horrible cards from the moment she was born. Millions of ppl are. It either makes you or it breaks you. In Tophia case, it broke her & made her comfortable living in her circumstances. Tophia is a product of her raising, just like the rest of us. She wasn’t taught how to properly function in the world. She was taught that she could free load her way through without having to work a real job. Not to mention social media making it even more accessible for her. She is NOT disabled to the point that she needs a caregiver? She is 100% capable & able bodied to take care of herself & even her mother. She knows what’s right & she knows what’s wrong & she knows also how to play the victim & NEVER take accountability for her shitty actions bc she was never taught to. But this is something that a person can change. They can learn & change their situations whenever they want too. They just have to WANT it bad enough to make it happen. Hopefully, this will be what makes Tophia finally start growing up, taking advice, accountability, making the right decisions, etc. She CAN do it. Just a matter of if she will.
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Exactly. Her being "disabled" plays zero part in any of this
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> So you are saying that Tophia doesn’t understand the concept of right or wrong
Nope. Never said that. Never implied it. Not reading past that first sentence. Two things can be true at once. Someone can be mentally handicapped AND a bad person who knows right from wrong.
I worked on a dementia unit for years and also was a caregiver for developmentally and mentally handicapped adults.
My own mother became mentally handicapped after two major strokes and a resulting TBI. She’s a bad person, too- she tried to push a man down a 50ft flight of stairs. She knew that was wrong. Guess what? Still mentally handicapped.
I am BEGGING some of you people to recognize that nuance exists and life is not black and white. Please go outside and experience what the world is actually like.
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lol I am literally a 30 year old woman with a husband, twin 9 year old sons, full time job, own our home, etc. my father suffers from dementia. I know exactly what the world is like lol & will always learn more as time goes on. When you are fully 100% GONE MENTALLY, you have no concept of what is right & what is wrong. That is why they do & say things that they normally would never do? TOPHIA IS NOT MENTALLY INCOMPETENT. Yes, she has a learning disability. Okay and? Lots of ppl do. & they live, thrive, work & even have families being successful in life. So Stop making excuses for Tophia being the way she is. She is a product of her raising & has a slight learning disability. She is fully capable of making it in life without a literal full time caregiver. That’s just crazy. All she needs is help, guidance & support. She’ll survive just fine by herself taking care of her mother & once she gets it down she can then learn to navigate & learn how to live on her own when the time comes. Bc it’s coming sooner than later.
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Rule 3: No Harassment/Threats/Sexual Content
Your post or comment was removed for threats of violence or self harm towards Tophia, other members of the Slydell family, or another user. Repeat offenders will be banned from this sub.
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It's not that serious lil bro
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what I don’t understand is how someone thought they could actually get away with carjacking this kind of car? It’s so colorful and noticeable, and most people who carjack avoid killing people and target abandoned cars but the person went though with it knowing 3 adults were in the car?? It’s all so sketchy to me
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He was already on the run from the police. It was the closest and most convenient target
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This couldn’t have been avoided, they were at the wrong place at the wrong time, it was dumb to dox herself but blaming this carjack on her is just ridiculous
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Wrong place at the wrong time, sure. But putting yourself out there and living in your car in a place like Alberquerque is setting yourself up for disaster. She and Donald Jr should have been actively working together to get themselves out of that car and under an actual roof. Yes, it's an awful situation and yes, NOBODY deserves to go through what she's had to go through, but we can't pretend that this wasn't, at the very least, partially avoidable. I'm sorry if this comes across as callous and it's not my intention, but both her and Donald had a hand in this.
For years, people have been trying to get this grown woman to take responsibility for her actions, warning her that things could go terribly wrong and she refused to listen. Now look. Her brother is dead and her elderly, sick mother was injured.
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I'm not blaming her. I'm saying that it could have been prevented. I don't want her to blame herself for this because it isn't her fault that they got jacked.
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We all collectively hate tophia for many reasons, but I think what happened shouldn’t be a laughing matter, or jump to conclusions to quickly.
Someone died, not just someone, her BROTHER. She deserves the peace, and I genuinely hope this will be a final wake up call for her.
I wouldn’t wish this ordeal on anyone, even the ones I dislike, as someone who lost a family member, it hurts.
Rest in peace Donald, you’re in a better place now.
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Sorry your posts got removed yesterday- nothing against you/your opinion. It was just crazy in here and I was trying to keep everything semi-coherent
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It's okay, I understand! I'm just glad that the mods on here are actually active.
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y'all must be having one hell of a time rn, i hope things are calming down a little
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THIS!!!! the sub has made me feel crazy for not feeling empathy towards brotherchu, even though he is a pedophile, an abuser and a rape apologist. I obviously didn't wish for this to happen, and I understand how traumatic that is, but why do I have to mourn the wicked?
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You don't. None of us do. He was a horrible person and doesn't deserve to be mourned.
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this is such an emotionally intelligent way to explain this. i agree 100%.
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Well said OP. It was a terrible event that I do believe she brought on herself ultimately
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people are trying to make me feel crazy because i don’t mourn brotherchu, he was a pedophile, he lied to a little girl about his age so he could groom her and then got a freshly 18 year old girl to date him. though i definitely do feel bad their family had to experience that, i couldn’t imagine. i’m only sorry for tophia and mamachu that they had to witness that and lose a family member
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I am really shocked that DEATH ITSELF couldn’t change her. Never again.
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this is the exact thing my mom has said, this is karma. she never blamed tophia nor her mother or brother for this situation, i thank that someone actually has the same opinion as us! tophia and her family are really bad people and death isn’t easy to come over but i pray tophia will do the RIGHT THINGS for her brothers sake and peace and mamachus and her peace
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THANK YOU! My mom and I were talking about it too (she doesn't care for Tophia and hates her but listens to me talk about her), and she feels the same way. How people turn this into us wishing death on her is beyond me. No one was wishing this on her, but her brother is a pedophile and she's horrid in countless ways, being into teens included. We're acknowledging that this was fucked up but it still happened.
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Karma is real.
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ain't no way her brother's death is karma. While I also do believe everything might (or might not) happen for a reason. Saying that her brother's death is karma is just a bit far reached. We all know she's all talks and no bite, we all know she can't actually hurt us beause mostly she's fearful and she enjoys sometimes being a victim. She can yap all she wants about us (aka people over the internet) and how she wants us to die but this isn't comparable to a carjack gone wrong and having actual people injured and dead and we're out here calling it "karma"
It's not just, it's not fair, even to her. I suggest we give her support that she needs instead of assuming things and we acknowledge what she needs and let's not give her negative things that would make her shift the blame towards us again and never change like she usually does. This is the perfect time to be there for her if you want to. Of course, if she doesn't change after this then it's her loss, not ours.
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I'm not saying that his death is karma, the situation as a whole is, and I'm not comparing anything. It's not fair, no, but it happened. I want to encourage her to better herself, but when has that ever done anything? It's a bit unrealistic to assume that after she's stood her ground and continued to dig her hole of self pity, she'll change.
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Karma? No. If so, we are all going to the fires for entertaining these sources that mess with a special needs person. Her family was just at the wrong place and time.
Tophia doesn’t bug me and I’m unsure why she bugs anyone. If her family or her does something illegal then report that, but anything else you can ignore her.
I don’t think Tophia is changing, though I hope she does for the better. I think the combination of her personality and mental capacity just makes any meaningful change hard. I think at best she can mimic better behavior if she is somehow surrounded by better people.
It reminds me a bit of when I dealt with dementia family members in various care homes. When they were on good behavior, any oopsies or quirks were just awww they don’t know better. Once they have an episode, then it’s they should have known better. But like I said, just reminds me a bit, because Tophia has conscious choices and is just smug and slow to make a change.
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She lives in delusion but you're talking about Karma? Give me a break, look around you, some of the worst people alive are thriving as billionaires and politicians. You know, people who do actual harm to people. Some of y'all desperately need a journal or a friend to talk to.
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She causes harm all the time. Forcing her elderly chronically ill mother to live in a car because she's lazy, abusing her animals because she's lazy, doxxing herself, etc. My feelings aren't shitty. Nowhere did I say not imply that I'm happy this happened. Reread my post.
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I entirely agree with this. People have very misplaced sympathy.
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It really bothers me when people have this take. Tophia is a human being; she is guilty of running her mouth and having a giant ego . And to put any blame on someone because of that, gives me just that much more evidence that human beings are selfish and callous creatures. Death goes beyond mortal consequence, It is final. Tophia will now miss out on living the rest of her life with her only sibling, and while she can possibly become a better person and amend for the things that she's done wrong, she will never get her brother back. As someone who has experienced suddenly losing a direct family member myself, it's really not something that I believe anyone rightly deserves. It's a terrible tragedy of life.
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Death truly is final, and that's why it's my biggest fear. I'm not saying that she deserves to have lost her brother (not saying that's what you said or are implying).
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I get what you're saying. In a way I believe that a lot of times, people who harm other people, like tophia, most likely haven't had to face the consequences of their actions throughout most of their life, or experience true hardships such as things like this. Absolutely not always the case, but it definitely happens. This is definitely a life changing experience for anybody.
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Yeah and it's really, really unfortunate that this is the way it had to happen, but sometimes, people have to learn the hard way (I'm one of those people 😭)
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Calling it karma makes you a horrible fucking person. I sincerely hope YOU get the help you need. Dear fucking god, is it so hard to be a human being???
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Bro didn't read the post
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yes what goes around comes back around, why is it ok for her to wish death on other peoples families yet—when this same thing happened to her that SHE WISHED FOR ON OTHERS happens we are so called the bad guy.
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Genuine question, why put so much effort into hating one person for this long?? Tophiachu is a bad person but there are millions of bad people, people worse then her on the internet.What made you be on her case specifically for this long?
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It's really draining watching her, and that's why I've stopped. Most lolcows, like Tophia, Cyraxx, and Bowser, get heckled because they're bad people. Yes, there are many horrible people, we know that, and we acknowledge them too. Lots of people have a "main" lolcow, which is the one they watch the most, and Tophia was that for me.
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What is the purpose of interacting with lolcow content? Is it just entertaining for you?
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No, it's a morbid fascination. Seeing how they operate and how their mind works, how they continue the same cycle, how they delude themselves. It's interesting in a fucked up way.
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Hm okay
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\*account suspended\* Reddit just proved my point you have nothing better to say than "she deserved it"
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Also, you know it has nothing to do with the internet, yet claim her doxxing herself caused the carjack, like oooookay.
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When did I claim that?
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“We’re letting you all know that this could have all been avoided…” this paragraph.
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I never said that it caused the jack...
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Not every thought needs to be shared. If your opinion doesn’t add anything, maybe take it as a sign to stay quiet. You're just beating a dead horse, patting yourself on the back like, 'Good job, me! My opinion matters!'—while everyone else echoes the same empty take. Just because you think it doesn’t mean it needs to be said.
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that’s why it’s an opinion, not everyone shares it. and has different takes on the situation. it’s the internet.
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I also agree that everything happens for a reason and what you put out is what you get in return. I believe the universe works in ways we can’t understand. I just can’t imagine the guilt she must have now, she knows she’s made threats and wished death upon people too. I know she feels guilty now for making fun of people being dead too. I don’t see how she can’t. After something so serious and traumatic I really believe this can shift her into becoming an adult now and getting her and Marie out of a car into a warm bed. She knows she can’t live like this especially after with what just happened. I feel like not a lot of people have faith due to the past which I totally get….but if you put the energy out there of believing in her instead of tearing her down it may help her into believing she can actually do it herself. I think we need to be really motivating and uplifting to help her go forward in life to better her and her mother’s future.