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r/tophiachutiktok • 2025-09-16 20:17:06 • score 68 • by Ok-Ebb2872

Anyone else find it miraculous/surprising that Marie managed to raise her two children from birth to adulthood without either of them prematurely dying? Did anyone from Marie or papachu's family help Marie raise tophia and donald jr?

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I'm currently in the fall semester studying child development at my local community college and I can't help by think about it's a miracle that Tophia and Donald Jr didn't accidentally die while under Marie's care as children, especially in my health, safety, and nutrition class. One of the most morbid and disturbing things I have learned in the child development course was all of the countless and hidden ways that kids tragically die from that can come out of nowhere. I'm talking about SIDS (sudden infant death syndrome), Reye's Syndrome, accidental drowning, getting hit by a car, accidental drug overdose, shaken baby syndrome, and water intoxication syndrome to name a few of many countless hidden dangers parents have to watch out for. In Marie's case, she wouldn't know basic things like learning to not give babies honey until at least age 1 or not letting babies play with plastic bags due to risk of suffocation. I am assuming Marie and Papachu didn't attending any new parent education classes? I should note that research from Pennslyvania's dept of human services have noted a strong correlations between drug-addicted parents and increased in premature death of children in households where drug use is being practice. Especially in cases like SIDS and accidental ingestion of drugs by kids. Given how Marie was a party girl who had a drinking problem and papachu was a drug addict with schizophrenia, Tophia and brotherchu were at a significant risk of accidental death, which is a miracle they survived well into adulthood. Link here: [https://triblive.com/local/regional/frightening-rate-of-children-dying-due-to-parents-drug-abuse/#:\~:text=TribLive's%20examination%20showed:&text=Drugs%20were%20a%20factor%20in,when%20the%20statistics%20are%20recorded.&text=Most%20drug%2Drelated%20deaths%20reported,days%20to%202%20years%20old.&text=Drug%2Drelated%20deaths%20among%20children,violence%20by%202%20to%201.&text=In%20more%20than%20half%20of,a%20child%20was%20in%20danger.&text=In%20Avery's%20case%2C%20a%20regional,to%20keep%20up%20with%20complaints](https://triblive.com/local/regional/frightening-rate-of-children-dying-due-to-parents-drug-abuse/#:~:text=TribLive's%20examination%20showed:&text=Drugs%20were%20a%20factor%20in,when%20the%20statistics%20are%20recorded.&text=Most%20drug%2Drelated%20deaths%20reported,days%20to%202%20years%20old.&text=Drug%2Drelated%20deaths%20among%20children,violence%20by%202%20to%201.&text=In%20more%20than%20half%20of,a%20child%20was%20in%20danger.&text=In%20Avery's%20case%2C%20a%20regional,to%20keep%20up%20with%20complaints) Reading statistics like this make me surprised Tophia or brotherchu didn't accidentally take papachu's medication or wander out of the house or get bit by rats given their untidy home environment. Given Marie appears to be very slow with a "lights are on, nobody's home" appearance and lazy mentality, Marie could have easily accidentally harmed Tophia or Donald Jr through using vintage home remedies that were commonly used by Marie's parents that are now considered dangerously outdated. These outdated common remedies and practices include putting tequila on baby pacifiers or a parent's thumbs to calm down a teething baby, throwing a baby up in the air, shaking a baby to get them to stop crying, putting babies to sleep on their bellies, and treating diaper rash with baby powder. I'm not saying Marie did this as a parent to Tophia and Brotherchu, BUT what I am saying is that Marie most likely did these remedies and practices as a parent given how these were common practices that existed during Marie's parent's generation as this was common practice when Marie was a child and how Marie didn't understand basic female hygiene practices like wiping herself after peeing everything as she didn't teach Tophia basic female hygiene. Question is, did Marie get help from anyone to raise tophia and brotherchu? Not sure if papachu contributed given his schizophrenia and being busy running scams on innocent people. Thoughts? Concerns?

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u/planethoneyy • 1 month ago • score 33
Yall ask the weirdest questions sometimes 😭
u/Consistent-Bet-4103 • 1 month ago • score 12
Some forget this is a snark sub… we don’t have answers for every question heck most of them we’ll never know ever 🤷‍♀️
u/CleanProfessional678 • 1 month ago • score 15
I don’t think anyone can even really answer the most basic question of this sub, which is “What’s the deal with Tophia?” If OP ended up getting a PhD, they could honestly probably do an entire dissertation on how Tophia’s early childhood affected her.
u/Ok-Ebb2872 • 1 month ago • score 1
that's actually a good idea. I could do an entire dissertation on every lolcow. question would be if my professors would allow it as I'm not sure if they know what an lolcow is?
u/RegretOwn6478 • 1 month ago • score 10
dawg that's what dissertation do - u pick a niche then spend 200 pages explaining it to ur prof and why it matters 😭 if they don't know what a lol cow is congrats WE'VE GOT AN INTRO !!!!
u/Aggravating_Ad_6027 • 1 month ago • score 20
this is by far the most realistic question lol
u/qtcapy • 1 month ago • score 6
This is the account that asked if Tophia would benefit from an escort.

This account and More_Equal are weird af
u/planethoneyy • 1 month ago • score 6
Lmao I saw their post history and I was like wtf
u/perfect_fifths • 1 month ago • score 15
Nope, not really. Did you not grow up in the 80s and 90s? All of us kids grew up with parents ans grandparents blowing smoke in our faces, ipecac in the bathroom cabinet, and sleeping on our stomachs. The last two were recommended by CDC/pediatricians.

While the cause of SIDS is unknown, and certain risk factors increase the risk, it's also thought to have a genetic component with regulating breathing in the brain.

I guess you have never been a parent, because bad crap happens all the time to children, even in the most dedicated and careful of parents.

Regarding Reye's, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), says were fewer than 20 cases reported in the United States each year since 1988. And you can get Reye's at any age. Doesn't even need to have anything to do with aspirin, it just happens to be linked with it.(known risk factor). You can get reyes after a virus and guess who is the prime population for viruses? young kids.

Now, do I believe Marie a neglectful, horrible parent, yep. Is she to blame for the way Tophia, is? yes. But there's also some overdramatizing as well.
u/CleanProfessional678 • 1 month ago • score 8
By OP’s logic, given the sheer amount of dangers that exist for kids, it’s a miracle anyone survived to adulthood, even with the most helicopter or helicopter parents. But I kind of get it, especially since they’re just starting to study this and likely don’t have their own kids. I think a lot of people have a similar reaction if they’re exposed to something like child development, first aid classes, or all of the lawsuits involving children and defective products. You just suddenly start seeing by all the ways kids can get hurt and suddenly the world is a death trap. A Torts professor told me about how his wife finally got fed up with him and told him that their kids would be fine and to stop worrying over everything.

Kids occupy this odd space between horrifyingly fragile and surprisingly tough. Plus, even for extremely negligent parents, we as a society generally do our best to eliminate known dangers to kids. Take the Kinder Surprise Eggs, for example. They’re illegal in the US because a 1938 FDA reg prohibits non-nutritive objects in food due to choking hazards. Or attractive nuisance laws that make people fence swimming pools in case a young child is somehow unattended and wanders over and drowns. Those are both actually hot button issues for some people who think there should be personal responsibility and their own freedoms shouldn’t be infringed upon and instead parents should supervise their own kids, but the laws are in place to help protect kids with neglectful parents. 
u/perfect_fifths • 1 month ago • score 4
I know childproof caps for otc and prescription bottles are from a 1970 safety law.

But I don't see where the OP is coming from because Tophia and her brother obviously lived into adulthood. I mean, I also majored in early childhood education so I've been on that side and all that stuff, and daycares are super strict about regulations. But kids are more resilient than people think. We have survived millions and millions and millions of years despite war, disease, famine and plaques. I am pretty sure Marie and Papachu's parenting are not going to be the end, lol.

Also remember once school aged they were probably treated a lot better in school than at home as you are typically in school for 6ish hours a day. Maybe Marie got free daycare through DCFS, which would provide the kids with food during the day and all that. All Marie would really need to do is take care of them as babies and infants, and she probably wasn't always so bad. Papachu wasn't either, once upon a time he worked and took his meds. Over the years, the evolved into what they are now.
u/Ok-Ebb2872 • 1 month ago • score 1
sadly those laws didn't protect tophia and brotherchu from papachu. somehow the law allowed him in the same house as them despite him being arrested for beating marie 8 times
u/Ok-Ebb2872 • 1 month ago • score 1
that wasn't the point in my post. My point in my post was how very easily Tophia or brotherchu could have very easily died as children given the fact that they were in a high risk environment with a schizophrenic drug addicted boyfriend who beat marie at least 8 times and a mother who didn't know basic hygiene as Tophia didn't know you are supposed to wipe yourself after peeing and pooping, and don't get me started on brotherchu's teeth he really needed braces.

it's common knowledge that a home with a domestic abuser increases the chances of a child's death. [https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8243381/#:\~:text=Among%20the%20examined%20risk%20factors,being%20killed%20during%20an%20IPH](https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8243381/#:~:text=Among%20the%20examined%20risk%20factors,being%20killed%20during%20an%20IPH) I actually have to do a report on this topic so tophia would be an interesting case study to write about and share to my professor
u/perfect_fifths • 1 month ago • score 2
My point is the opposite; likely they weren't as bad as they are now. Papachu was medicated and normal for a period of time and likely was when they were younger.
u/Ok-Ebb2872 • 1 month ago • score -2
so his schizophrenia made him beat marie? Makes me curious as to how he was younger back in college? I'm honestly shocked he managed to serve a full enlistment term. Was a family member responsible for giving him his meds or was he on his own?
u/perfect_fifths • 1 month ago • score 5
He enlisted in the military and served through the 80s and 90s, and entered the military right after college. He was in the army. Tophia was born in 1994. He started doing drugs after he was discharged from the military, like meth.

He probably did not have schizophrenia while enlisted, I do not believe the military would have let him stay enlisted. I don't know when he left the military, but he didn't retire.

So I think as I said before, things weren't as bad when Tophia was little and progressively got worse so they were probably capable parents compared to now, and I think a lot of things may be exaggerated (or maybe not), and Tophia isn't a reliable person anyways.
u/Ok-Ebb2872 • 1 month ago • score -4
you're right...things weren't bad when tophia was little. But why? if i recall correctly, tohpia said she and her family were living in and out of shelters throughout her childhood. What was the breaking point that caused the whole family to descend into homelessness and poverty? especially for a college educated man like papachu? especially the meth,
u/perfect_fifths • 1 month ago • score 5
Schizophrenia. It hit him after he left the military it seems (or caused him to leave it). And the drug use exacerbated it. It’s also possible Tophia is lying and/or exaggerating a lot of stuff from when she was little to create a false narrative.
u/kroniskbukfetma • 1 month ago • score 5
Her baby sister did die but I don’t know what for.
u/tetsuothestoryteller • 1 month ago • score 25
Yeah Marie's first child passed away because Marie decided not to get prenatal care. That's what Tofungus said. Either Marie was drinking with the kid or didn't know who the father was.
u/Ok-Ebb2872 • 1 month ago • score -1
source of marie saying this? I find it hard to believe marie would admit to not getting prenatal help. really makes me surprised that she managed to successfully bring tophia and brotherchu to full delivery alive. Weird she didn't get prenatal care as she could have qualified for free prenatal care due to her low income. wonder if she got prenatal care while pregnant with tophia and brotherchu?

I thought knew the father of bernandette? I remember her saying it was a white guy
u/qtcapy • 1 month ago • score 6
Pretty sure it was Tophia that said it
u/111gct • 1 month ago • score 6
She knew who the father was, Bernadette was named after him (Bernard). Just lazy
u/tetsuothestoryteller • 1 month ago • score 5
Oh yeah I forgot bout Bernard. So yeah Marie was just lazy and drank.
u/GorditaPeaches • 1 month ago • score 1
Right? I’m surprised she didnt throw one out with the bath water
u/upstylo • 1 month ago • score 1
damn I don't know how any of the us survived in the 80s when I was born....