What about Marie...
It's well known and established that Tophia is stuck in her ways like a stick in the mud. A life changing event hasn't even impacted her sense of responsibility. Do we see any hope for Marie though?
Could this carjacking and the loss of her son shake something within her to want to move on from the car life? Maybe after some time in the hospital with constant care and medical attention she might find the appeal of home more enticing. Or is she stuck to Tophia like Tophia is Marie. I'm genuinely curious on your thoughts.
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That’s the thing. Marie is mentally incapable of making her own decisions. Anything tophia says, she agrees and we all know how stupid tophia is.
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I agree. Hopefully the state steps in, then. Marie shouldn’t live on the streets, she shouldn’t have been on the streets in the first place.
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I’m glad someone said it, no child is responsible to take care of the parent regardless of how old they are. I know that may sound harsh, and I do think some people spew this rhetoric To make tophia look more guilty and Marie look like a victim, but at the end of the day there’s still people working that are older than Marie she is not a child.
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Tophia would feed her mother to a pack of wolves. She don’t gaf about that woman
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I agree. Aunt Karen asked her that do she love herself and she said yes , then aunt Karen said no you don’t. So if a person doesn’t love themselves then they don’t love nobody else. Tophia treated her mother like pure crap.
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Recover fast Marie
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RIP DONALD SLYDELL JR AKA BROTHERCHU
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This would never happen if Tophia would help her mom out along with her brother who did all he could do for support. Tophia should’ve worked and saved up money for moving expenses and an apartment yet she refused assistance for her mom through advice.
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I’m not saying cares about her necessarily, I’m just saying there’s no children involved in this situation. They all know they need to work to live, Donald is was responsible for his OWN, tophia is responsible for her OWN self and Marie is responsible for her OWN self
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I agree. I think Marie needs a push from the state. They need to help her get on Medicaid, get her into a retirement home. Tophia can figure her one shit out
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Own***
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I agree, 30 is still really young tophia can definitely change her life around and work and find and inexpensive apartment, but she has to want it. As for Marie she just needs resources maybe for her own assisted living, I feel she’s still not old enough for a retirement home bc she’s still not of retirement age yet.
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Tophia is just 30 years old and she’s capable of being employed. She makes up BS EXCUSES OF NOT WANTING TO WORK.
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I dont think marie can work anywhere with barely any control of her bladder, shes in worse health than most ppl her age. I always said that if ppl wanna say she isnt responsible for taking care of her parents, then she shouldnt be forcing them into her mess. Most parents do not want to leave their child behind, but that doesnt mean you should refuse to put your mom somewhere safer and keep her by ur side to treat her horribly. If someone isnt your responsibility, wipe ur hands clean w them and dont keep them around.
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She pisses herself, can’t hear, has that cough and just got shot. She definitely cannot work.
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Apparently shes able bodied now lmfao imagine ur outta work bc u slipped on ur coworker piss and messed ur back up😭
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Marie was in live streams refusing to agree she needs to leave tophia as care. People even called APS and Marie still told them she was fine and didn’t want help.
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I think a large part everyone is missing is this is quite literally what happens in a majority of elder abuse cases involving the abuser being the adult child. I do suggest you also try to read this. Marie isn't the exception to these cases. And to excuse Tophia's treatment of her will also excuse the abuse of many other seniors bc this is extremely common. She knows Tophia is incompetent and can't live on her own, she's also part of the reason why and may feel responsible for her care still or even feel like she deserves it. That doesn't mean Tophia is right to threaten to end her own life, threaten to put her hands on her mother, cuss her out, and isolate her by cutting her phone off and taking her laptop whenever Marie does call her out. Hearing your child, or anyone you care for, threaten to take themselves out of this world will make a normal person not wanna leave. Normal people work their a/sses off and leave their toxic family, not abuse their mama and refuse to put her up somewhere or leave. Marie shoulda been working ages ago, we know too much abt their family but ppl forget we dont know everything. Regardless, its too late for her to work bc theres no job she'd be able to do without pissing everywhere😭
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I’m not arguing against that at all, but this is the monster Marie created. She had YEARS to prevent this before it got started. Living as a stay at home mom when you’re low income and not investing into a 401k or a retirement fund was a dumb idea. Anything can happen. She relied on Donald’s VA checks to get by. As soon as tophia turned 18 and decided to drop out of college she could have told her to either get a job or leave the home and called the police to have her physically removed. Tophia wasn’t on the lease and could have been kicked out. She let this happen and sat back and watched it crumble. I don’t think Marie is the victim everyone makes her out to be, she wasn’t always disabled. I could understand if she was working her whole life and then her life fell apart due to tophia, but she’s been living like this for years and had absolutely no problem with it.
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I said she’s able-bodied bc her body works. She can walk, speak, use her hands and work a regular job. (Obviously not all disabilities are physical), but I work with plenty of people that are disabled and they are still a whole lot older. I said that she wasn’t always disabled because she is hard of hearing which she didn’t always suffer from. They can make accommodations for people with that disability. The same way they make accommodations for people that smoke and they get many more breaks than people that don’t work. You’re trying to make it seem like I’m defending abuse which I never would, and you’re also trying to make it seem like I’m defending tophia , which I also am not. about 69 other people disagree with you since they liked the original comment so if many of us could see the same thing it’s very clear I’m not the blind one. She screams at her mom, which she shouldn’t be doing, but you are acting like she’s physically, putting her hands on her and choking her and forcing her to be held captive somewhere. Are you a professional in the field because people did call APS many times and they investigated the situation and even deemed it to be safe I’m sure they can tell if someone’s lying if they’re actually being physically and mentally abused?
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Where do you think Tophia learned this behavior?? She grew up in a conniving, scheming, unhealthy atmosphere. Granted, she is an adult now, but you live what you know. Hopefully, it will be a turning point for both of them.
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I totally agree
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I'm not trying to be mean but I don't think she's mentally capable. I feel bad for saying this but some people should not have kids. She neglected her children, didn't take them to the dentist and didn't seem to teach them basic hygiene. It’s honestly really sad.
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It’s Tophia’s responsibility to take proper care of her elderly parents, yet she drags them into her own selfish lifestyle and lets them suffer as a result. She even refuses the services recommended by support agencies just because she can’t be bothered. Honestly, I hope Marie wakes up and allows APS to place her in an assisted living facility where she can get the medical and physical care she needs—somewhere warm and safe. Under no circumstances should she go back to Tophia’s care. If she does, people need to report—and keep reporting—so APS can step in and do what’s right for Marie.
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I disagree, when tophia was a child her parents didn’t take care of her and they were homeless multiple times. Now all of a sudden tophia is supposed to take care of her grownnn mom. Marie was fully capable of working. I don’t think any parent should have kids with the expectation that their kids are gonna take care of them when they get older.
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Its harsh but youre right
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dragging your mother around like she’s just an accessory to your life isn’t acceptable. If you’re stuck as her caretaker, then you need to step up and do it right. It’s painfully clear shes neither mentally nor physically equipped to care for her, and forcing her to suffer through this chaos is downright cruel. Marie deserves proper medical care, physical rehabilitation, and the dignity of a place where her needs are met—like an assisted living facility where professional help is available and her family can visit when they’re ready.
Right now, she’s being tossed around, drugged into oblivion, and left sleeping in a car on the streets of Albuquerque, New Mexico. That’s not living; that’s neglect. If you can’t take responsibility for her well-being, then let adult protective services step in and ensure she gets the care she desperately needs. Your selfish decisions shouldn’t force her to pay the price. It’s time to put her first—if you can’t do that, then stop dragging her through this mess and let someone who can provide the proper care take over.
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My problem with this is this is the Marie Marie showed them. She has no boundaries and created an entitled monster. She didn’t work and had her kids homeless many times in their childhood and now everyone just brushes that off. Where do we think tophia learned this from? She can’t be mad when she allowed tophia to act like this all throughout her life and never got it in check. People sat in the livestream and called adult protective services which could have offered Marie help and yet she figured she’d rather live in a car/motel. Not a victim
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Marie is going to be so worried about Tophia she won’t be allowed to claim her son. Tophia never cared about Marie sits all about Tophia and what she going through. Marie won’t go to rehab bec she’s too worried about Tophia
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My hope is APS has started an investigation into Tophia and Marie, and she gets placed in a Assisted Rehab Facility until she is well healed, and I pray APS steps in and says Marie can’t leave the Rehab Facility until Tophia has a Permanent Safe living situation for them
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Have you watched the news? There are millions of homeless people all over this country, from very young to very old sleeping behind dumpsters in every city and state.
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Shouldn’t Marie have provided that for herself. They can’t make tophia find shelter for her mom the are both grown adults responsible for themselves
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I think Marie probably thinks it but is too afraid of big t to act on anything
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please stop acting like tophia is holding her against her will. there is footage of marie cussing viewews out and saying she'll never leave her daughter and go to a home. she is the one that was telling tophia rhat ppl are jealous of her.
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Thank you. That made me sick. “Tophia, they are jealous of the life you have that’s why. Your viewers tell me that. They like you” or some crap like that
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Oh no my first original comment was “Marie is the older version of Tophia” but I’m thinking this traumatic experience probablyyyyy has her thinking she needs to be in a home not a car
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Hopefully tofupa leaving her to get shot in a car shows her that her daughter isn't all that
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this is harsh lol. it seems like the carjacker was moving fast, as soon as donald showed resistance, he shot him and just instantly took off. she wldnt have had time to grab Marie :(
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Of course that's the reality of the situation. But it seems the family lacks any logic so it could feel different to them.
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If there was a patty melt in that backseat, she would’ve definitely grabbed that before hopping out. No hesitation
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💀 the patty melt weighs less
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Marie needs time to take her rest and care; let Tophia do her own thing, but I hope Marie would reconsider her life choices and take accountability for Tophia's life as well..
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i hope one day that marie will finally make the decision to finally choose herself but i really don't think thatll happen at all. she just lost one of her babies and i think it would be too much for her to leave tophia in fear of what happened to donald could happen to tophia. i also think tophias going to use her mother's fear of what happened to manipulate and get what she wants out of marie (most likely control of the money sent) telling her she's scared and has PTSD so can spend it on what she wants and the sad part about it marie will let her
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She has a husband they just abandoned him. She’s saying he can’t be forced to take his meds and she didn’t leave Albuquerque because he was still here. And the only hospital he’d go to is some local one but he doesn’t even go there. They can leave now why would they want to stay here still. If they leave the area she can take Donald Sr. with her. She said she’s gonna lose her father. So she’s just gonna sit back and let this man die on the streets homeless and alone. The same dangerous streets that took his son.
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I doubt it. She is going to hold on tighter to tophia. Tophia is all she has.
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mamachu is gonna cling to tophia, she just enables her daughter time & time again & shes not gonna learn anything from this
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And Marie is a meal ticket for Tophia. When you look into Tophia's eyes, you see nothing: no lights, no people. Usually, the lights are on, but no one is home. But for her, nothing. It's the only way I can explain it. And when she talks, it's only about her needs and what she wants. This is going to take such a dark turn since there are even more people invested and giving her attention since the October scandal. We know she's not going to take the help that's offered and no therapy that she has needed since childhood
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We have no idea where mama was injured, and that is a big deal in her recovery. We also have no idea what state of mind she is in. She may be still too weak to talk, we don’t know. But I truly hope APS is involved, even though resources may be limited to help her.
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People keep saying it's NM homeless everywhere they don't care, but they do if you take the help, and since this was a crime, APS definitely will be involved in living in one of the highest states in the USA for drugs and homelessness, and there is help for victims of crimes, and since they are woman they are top list
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Marie claims we’re all jealous of her dumbass daughter anytime we call out tophia for her bullshit.
If anything, this will make Marie even more worried & scared for tophia that she’ll let her do whatever like before, including the thousands of donations they’ll be receiving.
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We all know if Tophia gets a hotel she will never be able to sustain it long term and they will be homeless once again
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Well I think the wrong child was taken FOR MARIE'S SAKE. now she will continue to suffer bc of tophia.
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Please read the pinned Mod post regarding content that is allowed surrounding the shooting incident on 3/11/25.
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The big question is would Tophila allow Mari to go into a home?
I hope Marie can grieve her son. I hope she thinks long and hard about this situation and I hope she’ll realize that her daughter has put this family through hell just because she didn’t want to work and or find emergency housing for them. How many times has tophia said “oh we just gotta get that one paper from storage and we’ll have a place” since October, just to never go to the storage unit to grab said piece of paper. There is genuinely no help for that woman.
Hopefully Marie asks to be put in a home.